Journal de Liv Lite, 16 nov. 22

Hello FS friends! I have a question for you:

Is substantial weight loss possible WITHOUT counting calories and/or macros or following a diet plan?

I've been wondering about intuitive eating and mindful eating. My research shows it's effective for disordered eating but not weight loss beyond maybe 10 pounds (ie close to maintenance). I really need to reconnect to my body; I feel very diet-fatigued with measuring, recording, etc. I haven't had any actual weight loss in 3 years. Lost my mojo.

I do know basic nutrition and know what to eat to keep my body healthy (just not optimal). I have started walking indoors past 2 weeks (in the Plus15 system in downtown Calgary); feeling better! I thought maybe I could learn to "trust myself" (around food) and better listen to hunger cues, without a "diet/program framework". I am not opposed to diets at all; just not motivated nor enthused by any at the moment. The last 6 weeks of 2022 seems like as good a time as any for a trial. I also believe in other factors such as IF (intermittent fasting) - min 12 hrs daily tho I am more naturally 14-16 hrs, meditations, exercise, etc. Weird, as I write this, it kinda seems I just don't believe in myself LOL. That is true!

Any suggestions? Tips? Thoughts? Experience? Let me know in the comments! Thank you, everyone :)

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For me thought distortion is a factor I need to take into consideration. Eyeballing food portions and keeping a clear view of my progress is difficult. For example, this morning I weighted myself at 160 and I was crushed, until I logged it and saw that yesterday’s weight was 160.8 lbs. Your mind can really play tricks on you so tracking is key for me. I suppose a “normal” relationship with food and weight loss is not one-size-fits-all. (See what I did there? Teehee!) 
17 nov. 22 par le membre: DomOlive
It worked for me, I lost weight with intuitive eating. However, I did weight myself every other day to make sure what I thought was “good” for my body really was good! Just give it a try, good luck. 
17 nov. 22 par le membre: licka11
I've always been intrigued with intuitive eating. I've read about it. It definitely works for some. I've never tried. I did a self help goal setting course. There was section on mindful eating. Basically slowing down (20 chews, 20 minute meal, between bites stop/breathe/put fork down/drink). Use your senses to smell, taste, present nicely, enjoy, notice fullness... Anyhow, I'm no expert. It logically seems these two diets should work very well together. Why not try it for 6 weeks? At worse you'll be like me with mindful eating tips I don't use enough. 
17 nov. 22 par le membre: meonadiet
www.ginalivy.com Wonderful program that teaches intuitive eating, no counting calories or portion sizes 12 week program for $75 Winter program starts Jan 2023 I've done 4 rounds of her program and it's amazing. Teaches you to be mindful so many non scale victories  
17 nov. 22 par le membre: GENXGinger
I am gonna "trust the process"! Eeeeek lol Thank you for the wonderful feedback! :) 
17 nov. 22 par le membre: Liv Lite
The only thing that has ever worked for me is calorie counting and slow-steady loss rather than massive loss in a short space of time. 
17 nov. 22 par le membre: Wendy MacKenzie
@Liv Lite Good Luck @Saxusan71 This program looks very interesting 
17 nov. 22 par le membre: meonadiet
This definitely works well if you are struggling with disordered eating, but you also don’t need to follow any specific diet, I personally don’t and I find it very sustainable and it works well for the gym. As long as you burn more calories then you eat you will lose weight, carbs, sugar and any other fab diet doesn’t really have huge affects on weight (especially carbs they’re energy). 
17 nov. 22 par le membre: andrianasemeniuc24
I have lost over 35 pounds, it's taken me a year so far, I still have about 15 left to go. I don't follow any specific "diet" program, I just eat less and exercise more. I have integrated more vegetables into my meals, more salads (I LOVE just tomatoes and cucumbers with different regular dressings - have one every day), less processed foods such as weiners, canned meats etc. although I do eat prepackaged things like chicken pot pies, and some pasta dishes. My downfall is chocolate, so I make and eat either chocolate or butterscotch puddings and have them for dessert almost every night, I also have some Atkins bars for snacks. In the winter I walk a mile a day, I live in a rural area and no matter how cold it is I bundle up and walk anyway (I live in norther eastern Alberta), in the summer I do a lot of yard work. I do track all my calories and my exercise on this site and try to have a deficit of at least 300 calories a day. Since there are 3500 calories in one pound, every 10 - 12 days I'm usually down a pound. Yes, I struggle some days, but I figure it took me 30 years to put this weight on, so if it takes me 18 months to take it off, I'm doing good.  
18 nov. 22 par le membre: Sideview
Intuitive eating changes based on what you actually choose to eat. For instance, you could mindfully eat a plate of bacon and oil covered hash browns for breakfast but you still will actually be hungry in 2 hours because salt, oil, processed food, unhealthy fats don’t actually give your body what it needs and mess with your hormones to create a craving/addiction state. So intuitive eating would only work if you have the knowledge behind what actually fuels the body and makes you feel full. The information that (some) diets provide is key to this. My recommendation for eating as much as you want and still having drastic results would be to still follow a method of every meal eating 1/2 portion natural veg/fruit, 1/4 unprocessed protein, 1/4 unprocessed grain. Stay away from cooking with oil an limit fats. As long as you follow that your golden. 
19 nov. 22 par le membre: sign_19
Lots of info for me "to chew on" LOL!!!! Success can only be had with healthy, whole foods, for sure! So far, I have learned I do not trust myself & I get anxious dealing with food. Drawing on all my experiences & resources to create my own 6 week guideline. Will make a post soon! I appreciate all your feedback :) 
19 nov. 22 par le membre: Liv Lite
meat, butter and salt. hence 0 carbs. your body fat will melt off 
20 nov. 22 par le membre: dstp71
I’m no dummy when it comes to being a healthy eater, I’m just not aware of portions and how much the things I don’t want to add up do! The tracking is what works for me. I’ve tried it without and I drift out to sea every time. Also having a support group like this helps me to be accountable and trains my brain, also for getting the exercise in too. I just feel better all around. 
20 nov. 22 par le membre: sallymax1
Funny - I was also thinking about this today. I am just starting up again, having regained as usual more than I lost the last time I lost weight. And thinking that I know what works to lose weight but I can never sustain it - makes me think I need to do something different. Like I know weighing myself daily and logging every bite I eat works. But I cannot do it for more than about 6 months and then I fall off the wagon and regain. So I have a plan right now to just massively increase exercise, stop snacking between meals, and boost water intake and see what happens between now late February. At that point I will re-evaluate. 
21 nov. 22 par le membre: Z'sMama
Hey there! I had a bad experience with intuitive eating, but let me explain why I think it didn’t work for me. First off, I was doing a very restristive diet before (WW plz don’t judge) and had not indulged in my cravings for months. I’m also prone to binging on food late at night and I have a VERY big sweet tooth. I trusted a dietician on Instagram (again plz don’t judge) and followed her very evasive « guidelines », if you can call them that. Her « advice » was to indulge in anything I wanted to build back my relationship with food. She clearly underestimated me. We also had hit another Covid wave in my area at that time and I was less active and « mindfully » stress eating LOL. Anyway, ended up gaining back the 50+ pounds I had lost in a couple of months and got really frustrated. So, TLDR, you don’t need to buy anything to start intuitive eating, do it only if you’re good with serving sizes and nutrition and don’t listen to Instagram. 
22 nov. 22 par le membre: amegag14
ladies I'm 51 years old. Life of yoyo dieting... Nothing I had tried in the past seemed to work for me in the past couple years. Joined The Livy method program, did 4 rounds of this amazing program only to lose 6lbs during the week and then gain them back after the weekend. This went on for a year. soooo frustrating and I was largest I've ever been at 206lbs. I advocated for myself to my doctor this past year and got all the blood tests, urine, stool done I told her all the healthy foods I was eating on the livymethod drinking almost 4 litres a water a day, taking supplements like vitamin B, D, Fish oils, Tumeric, probiotics etc and I feel amazing, sleeping better, hot flashes went away, pooping better but how I feel inside is not reflecting on the scale and it's making me sad, frustrated, zero intimacy with my fiance etc. She then said I'm going to refer you to a Metacare clinic that is fully covered by my provincial medical plan. That was back in June, I totally forgot about the referal. They called in September had an opening am I still interested? I googled this clinic and chceked out their website and they are an Obesity and Cardio Metobolic Clinic. I had to go and get a bunch more blood work, urine tests done prior to my appointment. Turns out ladies I have Cardio metobolic syndrome, this is a cluster of issues, my age, high blood pressure, high chrolestorol, BMI over 30, waist over 30 inches I AM INSULIN RESISTANT and my LEPTIN levels are way too high. this means that I"m am going to have a tough time losing weight and KEEPING IT OFF. I was recommended Saxenda. It is a newer weight loss medication that helps correct the insulin resistance and lowers those Leptins levels. Been on it since Oct 3rd and I'm down to 195.4lbs this morning. 10lbs loss in 8 weeks. If you go on Tiktok or Facebook you can search Saxenda, Wagovy, Ozempic, all these medications help correct insulin resistance. I went with Saxenda because my work health plan covers 80% of it I don't qualify for Ozempic because I don't have diabetes but when Wagovy comes to canada at the end of the year I will qualify for that as it's for obesity it's the same as Ozempic but they give it a lable of obesity so benefits plans will cover it if you are obese. Anyways I am soooo happy this medication has stopped all the food chatter in my head...what to eat, when to eat oh I can't have that it's high carb blah blah blah so if you have issues binging this will solve that. I have to force myself to eat now! It may not be right for everyone but I read your comments that you lose weight during the week to only have it back after the weekend. You could very well be insulin resistant and have high leptin levels Go get checked out, advocate for yourself to your doctor!! best of luck 
23 nov. 22 par le membre: GENXGinger
Hi there, I have lots 50 pounds and kept it off for about five years. I eat about 8 - 12 cups of fruits and vegetables a day, but mostly vegetables. I have fruit and or vegetables with every meal. I have a huge salad the full size of a dinner plate every night which fills me up. I have 4 oz of protein and 6 oz of potatoes for dinner. If I have pasta I have 1 1/2 cups instead of 2 cups portion I used to eat. Since I cut back on carbohydrates that has been huge to my weight loss. I love to cook and almost everything is homemade. I try to avoid alot of proceeded foods. I also eat Oikos plain Greek yogurt which is low in carbohydrates, helps with food craving and also a fast and easy snack! Unfortunately I have a really sweet tooth and have a small sweet with my dinner every night even though I'm Dieabetic. I just got back my new A1c blood work back and that was 7.0 and the doctor said great work and keeping doing whatever you are doing. I also bought myself a digital starfritz scale and I absolutely love it, as it is so easy to use. I absolutely love potatoes so that's why I weight them as I would otherwise eat more. I tired so my diets over the years but starving myself and depriving myself didn't work and then I would binge and that was not good. Yo! Yo! diets don't work and lifestyle diet changes do so I never feel like I'm on a diet. Good Luck to everyone!  
24 nov. 22 par le membre: loveswisschalet
I love reading about all your experiences! My "Conscious Eating" is going well. Still kinda mentally tracking calories; asking myself: did I get enough protein & fibre today? Stopping and really THINKING about what I am gonna eat is surprising! Before, I just kinda thought about calories & macros numbers. @Saxusan71: what was your experience on Saxenda? I can get Ozempic (diabetic) but at $250/month, I am not sure. The only folks I know who went on it, yes, lost significant weight BUT were nauseous the whole time! Plus regained as soon as stopped the injections.  
24 nov. 22 par le membre: Liv Lite
@Loveswisschalet: Hello! I am diabetic too (A1c under 5.6 for past 5 years but it went back up to 5.8 in September ugh) I haven't used my kitchen scale since Monday (after using 7 years). Congrats on your lower numbers! wooohooo I agree: I cannot get into starving, restrictive mode where I "think" I am deprived. It's a mental game! I am still learning to trust myself, and rein in some portions. That's where I'm really forcing myself to STOP, check in and be honest (am I REALLY hungry for more?) I'm excited about this new journey! 
24 nov. 22 par le membre: Liv Lite

     
 

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